Techmeme 20260911 AI Researchers Debate How Close We Are to Recursive Self-Improvement Summary
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Techmeme surfaced Dwarkesh Patel’s September 11, 2026 roundtable, AI researchers debate how close we are to recursive self-improvement, with Thinking Machines chief scientist John Schulman, Zyphra CTO Beren Millidge, and Baseten head of model training Charlie O’Neill.
The discussion’s most useful contribution is to break recursive self-improvement, or RSI, into separate technical problems. A model might write training code quickly, optimize a measurable objective, or run many experiments in parallel without being able to choose the next important question, learn continually from deployment, or carry an open-ended research program through months of changing evidence. Faster execution can greatly accelerate a lab before those harder capabilities arrive, but it does not by itself close the loop in which AI designs its own increasingly capable successors.
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